Xtc20040601

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Topics for discussion:

Who's going to be there:

• DanPollitt
• BryceKampjes, who's wondering about whether deleting code to fix bugs is valid in TDD. The situation is this, I have two test suites, the customer tests are failing but the developer tests pass. After investigating it's because of some old code that's grown a little hairy. The developer tests are good enough to generate correct code, they are not good enough to show why the old hairy code is broken. Today I started just deleting the old hairy code instead of trying to create a test. The old hairy code was written test first, it's just I missed a key concept.
• GiovanniAsproni
• AlanGriffiths - Who is also thinking around TDD - both from introducing it to developers unfamiliar with the practice and from dealing with a corporate "testing" initiative - which looks more like training in heavyweight requirements gathering.

Who can't make it:

• RachelDavies going to Thames Valley Agile SIG in Oxford